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		<title>By: Kevin Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.mh-z.com/blog/mechanical-difficulties/#comment-18750</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been through 3 cars, my strategy is simple. Go to a nice reputable dealer for diagnosis, get a complete itemized list. They are usually very conservative and will list more items than necessary. Tell the dealer &quot;This is my budget for this year, what should I fix first?&quot; They are more than happy to prioritize the to-fix list. 

Afterwards I&#039;d call around mom and pop places that don&#039;t have too many negative ratings, and ask them the cost to repair specific items. Ask them the cost of using genuine part vs. 3rd party. If it&#039;s something like brake or timing belt I&#039;d buy the actual part from the dealer, bring it to the mom and pop place, and get it repaired.

So I do follow a similar intuition that I think dealers are *usually* not as shady as some of the smaller stores. I don&#039;t think the mechanics have incentives for cheating you-- they&#039;re paid by the hour and don&#039;t have much interest in getting the dealership (that they have no financial or emotional ties to in the first place) to get low priority repairs done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been through 3 cars, my strategy is simple. Go to a nice reputable dealer for diagnosis, get a complete itemized list. They are usually very conservative and will list more items than necessary. Tell the dealer &#8220;This is my budget for this year, what should I fix first?&#8221; They are more than happy to prioritize the to-fix list. </p>
<p>Afterwards I&#8217;d call around mom and pop places that don&#8217;t have too many negative ratings, and ask them the cost to repair specific items. Ask them the cost of using genuine part vs. 3rd party. If it&#8217;s something like brake or timing belt I&#8217;d buy the actual part from the dealer, bring it to the mom and pop place, and get it repaired.</p>
<p>So I do follow a similar intuition that I think dealers are *usually* not as shady as some of the smaller stores. I don&#8217;t think the mechanics have incentives for cheating you&#8211; they&#8217;re paid by the hour and don&#8217;t have much interest in getting the dealership (that they have no financial or emotional ties to in the first place) to get low priority repairs done.</p>
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		<title>By: donut</title>
		<link>http://www.mh-z.com/blog/mechanical-difficulties/#comment-18748</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>depending on the kind of car you have... the more advanced ones from Germany, dealer mechanics relies too much on the &quot;factory provided software&quot; to diagnose your problem. This is especially worse for BMW under its full warranty program, because if the software didn&#039;t say it&#039;s the problem, the software won&#039;t authorize the repair, and the mechanic will have a hard time justify why they did something else that the software didn&#039;t tell them to do. at the end of the day, BMW dealer mechanics are just a bunch of morons who can&#039;t think on their own 2 feet. but if you have a japanese (or even american), dealerships should be pretty good =)

i found a good place around work to take my car to... not the cheapest, but they are the most reasonable. they&#039;ll tell you what NOT to fix without you asking them, haha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>depending on the kind of car you have&#8230; the more advanced ones from Germany, dealer mechanics relies too much on the &#8220;factory provided software&#8221; to diagnose your problem. This is especially worse for BMW under its full warranty program, because if the software didn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s the problem, the software won&#8217;t authorize the repair, and the mechanic will have a hard time justify why they did something else that the software didn&#8217;t tell them to do. at the end of the day, BMW dealer mechanics are just a bunch of morons who can&#8217;t think on their own 2 feet. but if you have a japanese (or even american), dealerships should be pretty good =)</p>
<p>i found a good place around work to take my car to&#8230; not the cheapest, but they are the most reasonable. they&#8217;ll tell you what NOT to fix without you asking them, haha&#8230;</p>
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